Dive into the future of cybersecurity innovation with ITSPmagazine's RSA Conference US 2023 Coverage Podcast! Join Sean and Marco as they explore the next generation of groundbreaking technologies and companies.
Guest: Cecilia Murtagh Marinier, Cybersecurity Advisor - Strategy, Innovation & Scholars at RSA Conference [@RSAConference]
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilia-murtagh-marinier-14967/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/CMarinier
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Episode Notes
Welcome to another thrilling episode of ITSPmagazine's RSA Conference US 2023 Coverage Podcast, hosted by Sean and Marco. In today's episode, we dive into an engaging conversation with Cecilia Marinier from the RSA Conference, who is responsible for managing the suite of innovation programs, and those aimed at college students. This captivating discussion will give you a deeper understanding of the exciting things happening in the world of cybersecurity innovation.
Cecilia shares insights into the Innovation Sandbox contest, an 18-year-old cornerstone event of the conference that has seen billions of dollars of investments and produced numerous successful companies. With a 150% increase in submissions this year, the top 10 companies have been announced, showcasing a diverse range of backgrounds and problem-solving approaches.
In addition to the Innovation Sandbox, we learn about Launchpad, an event that focuses on earlier stage startups, where three entrepreneurs pitch to venture capitalists. The venture capitalists themselves come from varied backgrounds, bringing unique perspectives and valuable questions to the table.
We also explore the Early Stage Expo, where 50 startups showcase their solutions, and a series of informative content sessions aimed at those interested in becoming entrepreneurs. The RSA Conference is committed to innovation, and this episode highlights the passion and excitement behind it.
Join Sean and Marco as they ask Cecilia about the criteria for selecting participants for the Innovation Sandbox and Launchpad events. We discover the importance of having a strong team, a novel approach to solving a problem, and the ability to demonstrate the potential for significant market impact.
If you're eager to learn about the future of cybersecurity innovation, this conversation is a must-listen. Don't miss out on this episode packed with valuable insights, and be sure to share it with others, subscribe to the podcast, and join us for more captivating discussions.
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Sean Martin 01:14
Arca Shan, you're expecting me to sing on this one?
Marco Ciappelli 01:19
I don't know you you kind of shoot on your own food. They're not that for those that don't know what these references you should listen to one of the latest RSA Conference. Yeah, where Sean started the podcast singing Frank Sinatra, I believe and and, and everybody was very impressed. So now yeah, now you have to sing every time we record. Now.
Sean Martin 01:47
It's not happening this time. I'm sorry.
Cecilia Marinier 01:50
Crushed I'm using for my other colleagues, but not for me.
Marco Ciappelli 01:55
We will prepare something I will play even something some music to them will say no. Yeah, we're not ready for stage yet. That's right. That stage? Or another stage? Yes.
Sean Martin 02:09
Yes, I feel like that'd be quicksand, not sandboxes. Not that innovative with my singing abilities. But everybody's listening. Of course, the first few moments of these, they often wonder what the heck is Marco and Shawn up to when they're on together? They make no sense whatsoever. And I'm okay with that. We eventually get to where something matters. And we say something important. More importantly, our guests say something important. And I'm thrilled to have Cecilia marinara on joining us from RSA Conference. Hopefully I didn't match my pronunciation of your name with my singing skills silly.
Cecilia Marinier 02:48
Great, you did great.
Sean Martin 02:51
Well, it's a pleasure to have you on this is the tradition for us slightly different this year, because usually join Linda and Britta for our kickoff conversation. But you have some stuff that we couldn't talk about last time that you're going to share with us this round, things that have been announced. And you're gonna give us a deeper dive into some of the things that you work on. I kind of like to say you bring all the fresh blood into the conference, attendees, and companies and technologies and all, all that kind of stuff. So you're bringing the next generation in. And enough for me, I want to hear who you are. So our folks listening, know what society is up to and your role within the conferences coming up.
Cecilia Marinier 03:38
Thank you, Sean. That's a nice introduction. I have to feel like I like to look at the forward thinking ideas and products and attendees. So my name is Cecilia Malin. Yeah, I do work at the RSA Conference. And I run all of the suite of innovation programs and all the suites that have programs that are aimed at college students. So I think the easiest way is I run a lot of different programs. I'm going to run over some highlights on it. I'm going to stop on the innovation piece and let you guys ask questions and get any other teas out any other ideas that you think your audience might be interested in. But, you know, RSA Conference is interested in amplifying and supporting innovation. And we do this in the multiple ways. The first is we've created the longest standing innovation sandbox contest this contest is the is the cornerstone of the Innovation Suite. It is the place where we put a lot of attention. It is 18 years old. It has billions of dollars of investments from the companies that have been graced the stage. Many companies to companies have actually gone on to to be part of the stock market. And I think over 70 companies have actually also been bought out. So it's a good testament to what's happening in the marketplace. It has identified really strong companies that are coming up. And so first off is the innovation sandbox contests. It happens on Monday. And it is, as I mentioned, 18 years old. So we just announced the top 10. Last week, you're not behind people you can get there, you can learn more. At the website, you can find out about the top 10 companies. You know, one of the things that was really interesting this year, was we had 150% increase in our submissions. So it was really hard for our judges to actually identify the top 10, I think I could have run probably two to three innovation, sandbox contests with all of the talent that was in there. It's just an amazing slate of companies, very different backgrounds, and and where the companies are from, what they're actually addressing which problem they're trying to tackle. So it's really worthwhile your time to just stop by the innovation sandbox contest and hear about it. And what we've learned, though, from ISP, and I'll just do one more thing. And then Mark, I know you want to talk to me about this. So what ISP is, we kind of built this up so that it's now later stage startups. And there were so many people that were interested in earlier seed investments. So we had to create another kind of contest, we call this one Launchpad. And Launchpad happens on Tuesday, it will be in the sandbox. And it is three entrepreneurs, it's a lot more like Shark Tank. So it's three entrepreneurs who will pitch individually to three venture capitalists. And I'm really excited about the venture capitalists. They're all new to the stage this year. They all have very different backgrounds, either government or you no one's Israeli coming with that whole suite of background and understanding what's happening in Israeli market. And then Emily, who has this great background in both being a Cisco and then now also into venture capital. So they come with really interesting backgrounds, they're gonna ask great questions to the, to the startups. And we just identified the three you haven't heard them yet. It's all still behind closed doors, you gotta wait. But that's going to be announced next week. And so, so those guys, I have seen the three companies I actually helped coach, pitch them on their dry run pitches, great. Like these are all solid, really interesting. Again, like, I love this, I'm so excited for them to get onto our stage. And then the final piece on this particular area, isn't really sage Expo. And that place is going to have 50 startups that are in the space that you can come by and just meet it's like an expo hall. And it's all different backgrounds, companies solutions, so cool, cool place. Okay, wait, wait, there's one more thing, we're gonna have to tell people. We did something else, because we wanted to actually also identify, like, we had this how to beforehand. So if you're interested in becoming an entrepreneur, we've actually put together a really cool slate of content pieces of content suite on Monday morning before innovation sandbox contest, you're going to have Dave DeWalt leading eight stellar cabinet of venture capitalists talking about the state of venture capital in cybersecurity, you're going to have Bob Ackerman talking to several very high leading CEOs of the startups that how they had their CEO journey. And and then we'll close with Katie Gray from Intel, she's going to be leaving another moderation of like how to get the money. So these kinds of sweet is beforehand. So that's how we're committed to innovation. We've done something almost every day. So hope you can join us. Stop here.
Marco Ciappelli 08:21
And we're done.
Cecilia Marinier 08:25
Had a great time, guys.
Marco Ciappelli 08:26
I can really feel the excitement. It's like, you know, and I'm training my head too. How can we wrap up? In one question, a follow up question. All that you said. And of course, the the one I'm thinking is, what are the criteria that make you pick either for the lunch pod? Or for the innovation sandbox or the early stage Expo? Or the VC? What are you looking at? Maybe what the VCs are looking at, that is important nowadays, it's not just hey, I got something, but I got something that works, because and that's how you pick it.
Cecilia Marinier 09:07
So I'm in the submission period, and highly recommend anybody that is interested to keep on watching that for 2024. We have a you have to actually include a lot of background pieces. So when the judges are looking at these companies, they're not just looking at the solution itself. They're looking at like, Where does the solution fit in the overall marketplace? They're looking at who's on the team. So this is for most for innovation sandbox, obviously, because they're later stage, you know, because the idea here is can this company actually get on the stage when ISB and then change the marketplace in 12 months afterwards? That's the criteria. So it's a big ask, if you look at the judges themselves, they're veterans in this industry. There is not one there you can say oh, well do they really know cybersecurity? I mean, you have Shlomo Kramer, who was CEO of Cato networks and Imperva. and founder of Imperva, you have Chris Young, who is, you know, Senior Vice President of Microsoft was the CEO of McAfee, you have, you have new how, who has been very, very close to what's been going on in, in DC. So she's very close to, she sits on the board of the NSA, she has done a tremendous amount. She was also the chief strategy officer at RSA a long time ago. But like, you know, solid, solid individuals, the other two are also saw Paul Cotter, amazing. So I want to go into I get when I lose somebody here, but they're all amazing, they worked really hard at looking at each of these companies, because the companies themselves had to submit a three minute video. So all the judges had to watch these videos. And so that's part of the selection process. So it's time consuming. And these judges put their hearts and souls into it. You may have a couple rounds that go through and then there's this conversation at the end. And everybody's got vying for like, you know, what is it they think it is a difficult process, and it's something that I'm very impressed with these very high Oh, the last one is barmac. I didn't mention him. He's a new one. And barmac is amazing. So barmac was the CEO of alien vault. And now he's at ballistic ventures. So long, the short, like a solid bench of caliber judges that spend a lot of time identifying
Sean Martin 11:17
new year, we're gonna remember barmac. But I also have to mention the host, our good friend. You have been talking about energy, and fun and excitement. Not Not that the event itself, isn't that. I mean, he does an amazing job pulling all this thing together and kind of keeping it rolling. I don't know, Marco, you enjoy chatting with him?
Marco Ciappelli 11:41
Yeah, I just want to kind of like bring you back to to my question, because again, you're explain a lot the right answer, but you said, no pressure in 12 months to change the market. Okay. Great. Is there like a checklist that the judges and the people that decide? I mean, again, the criteria? Are we looking at, you know, environment? Are we looking at governance, are we looking at doing good? Is there a secret ingredient that they know?
Cecilia Marinier 12:20
? So I do coach them on? I coach the the startups that the areas that they need to cover are, you know, who's the product? Without? Who's the product for? What is it trying to solve? What's the problem is trying to solve? And that has to be very tight, because honestly, we're in security, and everybody has a very good idea, you know, they're just kind of like that, but they have to lay that in there. And they have to say about how are they approaching the problem differently? Like, how do they actually, how are they innovative in this approach? And then they do have to touch on the who's in the company? And then they have to say, like, how am I going to market? How am I ready? And so those are the four pieces, when the judges are evaluating, they also take a look at, you know, just the presentation itself, that is part of like, did you come up here? And were you prepared, so that does make a difference. So I think that that's very much in line with trying to tell a very quick story. And I just talked to a couple of different entrepreneurs, it is hard to do in three minutes. Look at how much you have to cover. I mean, you have to like it, identify who you're doing it and then like, how are you different? And this is like, Oh, my goodness. So generally speaking, you know, I'm like, Okay, well keep that, you know, one slide at the very end that says, like, here's who's invested in us and how much money we've raised. And here's our you know, look at them 50 years of experience, or whatever the company has, with all the different players that are in the space. So it's, it's a, it's a challenge to the venture capitalist, not to venture to the entrepreneurs, excuse me, to actually get up there on the stage. And that is the criteria ahead of time Marco, in order to apply, the product could not be out, has to be out between 12, one of 21 to 12, one or 22. So it has to be within that year period, your company has to be private, you can't be part of a large company that's like, Oh, look at me, I'm Microsoft and I built this other small piece over here. And I want to show how innovative it is it has to be a standalone, privately held company. And then the other part is that it has to like you know, has to have a novel approach. And it has to have a strong team. Those are the kind of the small things that we identify ahead of time. I mean, you can take a look at the submissions, it's quite a extensive experience for them to actually apply. So those ado, are very grateful. The same thing for the people who are applying for Launchpad. Those guys have to include a pitch deck because they're pitching to venture capitalists. So a little bit different for those guys. They're not supposed to have the product in the market yet or if it is, it's coming out right around when conference starts. So it's something that's very innovative in the sense of people don't know about it yet. And that it's privately held, and you know, you're looking probably hopefully for see seed round. Although the market right now I don't know if you guys have been paying attention, but the money that's been going into startups has been absolutely off the charts. It's been crazy amounts of money. And, and I think that's good. I'm kind of curious to see if that slows down now that the price that you know, interest rates have gone up, and might be a little bit harder, especially after Silicon Valley Bank falling, we'll have to see, we'll have to see what happens. But in the last three years, the the dollar amount that's coming in to any startup, you know, I'm sitting there trying to ask for startups that are under a million dollars of seed capital. And they're like, yeah, we've worked like 3 million, 5 million, you're like, Oh, my goodness, it's hard. It's hard to get to that really early stage. Because to get to play in this space at all, you need to have the capital behind you.
Sean Martin 15:47
Nice. And as I attempt to trick you that list, the three in the launchpad. Can you also include also in the final list from the sandbox? And maybe more importantly, is there a common theme or thread that runs through some of the technologies that network and point cloud identity on it is? Or is there anything you can kind of
Cecilia Marinier 16:13
say, I am not going to, I'm not going to try to play there, because I, what I can tell you is that we tried to bring in people who had different areas of solutions. So that that's part of, you know, you look at the top 10 They should be very broad, very broad. So, so if you look at who's there, Anna Chang AI is I know web three, web three? Yes, they're an asterix Daz Pangea. I know these companies, but I'm gonna let you go back over to their piece, I mean, I can actually take a look at their like what they submitted as their part of their top 10. But I'm would not want to actually get too deep into this, because that's not my bailiwick.
Sean Martin 16:59
Plenty to read there as well.
Marco Ciappelli 17:02
We wouldn't list them,
Cecilia Marinier 17:03
we will list them. So actually, I'll go to the website, I'll actually bring if you can send them that, I'll send you the press release. Sorry, let's go because
Sean Martin 17:14
we have all that we got. That just leaves the three that you're not allowed to say. But you're gonna say anyway,
Cecilia Marinier 17:21
you, you want me to push this out there. I haven't gotten contracts that yet guys. So until I get their contracts, hesitant to put it out there. But I feel confident, I feel confident.
Sean Martin 17:38
That's all good. I'm playing with you a bit of social engineering. But I want to go to the the other sandbox. So it's, there's a lot of stuff going on Monday innovation, but the one where you have our friends from the aerospace village, or IoT village, your car hacking village, I know you do a lot of work to pull that together to if I'm not mistaken. So we're having conversations with a few of the villages. But maybe if you can kind of highlight some of the main main attractions there, or some new things, perhaps this year, that that may have not been there in previous years. So
Cecilia Marinier 18:15
I think I'm just going to lay a little foundation. So sandbox, the goal of sandbox, and this is now in his seventh or eighth year, is to bring on that hands on activities to give a space where people can go and hang out. And it's to also be attractive to people who are kind of focused on more the actual hands on technical aspects. Or maybe they just got promoted, and they're director and they're like, Oh, I'd actually like to go back and play. So in the sandbox itself, we have seven sandboxes. Starting with adversary sandbox, which is a lot of red teaming. You have app sec, pretty self explanatory OpSec villages there. Then we have dark arts aerospace, as you guys mentioned, I have to tell you that one Okay, so one fun thing. I'll tell you one fun thing I see in each of these, okay, so Aerospace is of course, I can bring some really cool stuff that you can actually try to fly. But they're also building out they're having Boeing put in a paper plane area. So you can see how far you can build your plane. So that will be really fun. And there'll be some prizes, just saying I know that the adversary village are actually going to win and dark arts village are actually going to do some actual labs. Like if you sit down, you can sit for one or two hours and do some red teaming with them, kind of get some real experiences there. lockpick village will be over on the second floor and west. And that is one that anybody can join. I hope to see you guys there. I'll take pictures of you guys. But basically, you know, they're going to come out with their locks. It's the local San Francisco chapter. But the goal there is also we have a small stage and on that stage, I'm really impressed with the people who were bringing in. It's not supposed to be what you would get on the regular tracks. It's supposed to be researchers. It's supposed to be people are cutting edge on that particular aspect. So it's going to be driven by those and I've seen the slide decks and I'm like Okay, we're ready. We're Because I'm excited that Jason Haddix is going to be there, for example, and Keenan Skelly, who is doing a great piece on the XR VR world and kind of really challenging your thought around like how we have to get ahead of that game, we can't be playing catch up in this space, especially since it's going to really be aimed at younger, younger people. And actually, they're going to be part of the probabilities. Oh, am I'm having a badge, that's going to be so cool. It's going to be one you can it's like for badge life, you guys will be able to have it light up and have each of the sandboxes will have a key to have a different piece led up on the sandbox badge. I'll even send you a picture so you guys can include it in the final cut. How's that? You guys get first dibs. first dibs on the picture.
Sean Martin 20:45
Fantastic. Let's so as you're describing, I know, you also mentioned that the executives are seasoned folks will spend time in there. But I think what I like about the Sandbox is it's a place to engage with others directly, if you'd like to see stuff and play with stuff and put your hands on stuff. And, and so it's a place to explore. So one might be in network security, professional and want to learn about aerospace. Exactly. Or they might be a cloud security person that wants to dig more into IoT. Alright, yeah. And then there's, I'm nothing yet. Right? I haven't joined this industry yet. Right. So this is a great place to just see what some of the different areas are. And of course, not taking away from the sessions. So what I'm leading to is some of the the college stuff that you do, right, bringing, bringing the younger generation and the scholarships that you offer to help people who may not have the funds to make it there and then be part of this. Tell us a little bit about both those programs, college day and the scholarship.
Cecilia Marinier 22:01
I'd like to lead in but you left me open and I need to say, which is that you were talking about? It's a Hangout zones. We have couches in areas like that. We also have a coffee bar that's open all day. And then we're doing in cyber ops at Tuesday night. So that is a social function. At conference. And as John was mentioning, this is a place where everybody there are volunteers, and they come in and they want to talk to you. So there's no question there every question, there is like a great question. And everybody's excited to help you because that's the one part about the cybersecurity industry. That is such a blessing is people want to give back. And the sandbox space is that space where you're going to see all those people, generally speaking, they're coming from the DEF CON villages, and they just want to talk to you. So now leading into your next question about the college students. So, you know, in 2016, when we were looking at where the RSA Conference is basically trying to be the intersection between policy and are like government and business, and nonprofits, and we're in academia, like we're trying to play in all these spaces, because we want to bring the stakeholders together to have the hard conversations. And so one area that I felt was kind of missing was the scholars area. So we created first off security Scholar Program, which is like a TED Fellows Program. And we asked different universities across the United States, either public private, or they they might be, you know, government, its military, you know, like the Naval Academy, for example, to identify students, that would be the thought leaders of tomorrow. And we asked them to be as creative and diverse as you know, where the solutions, what they're studying with their, you know, their bachelor, or master or PhD, who want a different backgrounds, we wanted them to be thinking about different ways. And this program has been so successful over the past seven years, it's one of my favorite programs to offer. What we've done from there is we've asked the students themselves to share their work. So on Wednesday, we're going to have it open to all conference attendees to go see their poster exhibition. And then those that want to go see a poster pitch off, because you know, I'm all about contests. I asked a couple of the students to actually take their work and pitch it to three judges, who will then also give them some feedback about you know, what are they thinking, what are they going, it's really cool. The students are so psyched to be doing this. They're gonna be doing in front of Ben, John and front and Johnson from Microsoft, and in front of Jamil Jaffer from MSI. So I mean, like, it's gonna be super fun. And that's open to all people as well. In addition, because once we got that program started, similar to like Launchpad, once you see one thing, you're like, Oh, I got to solve the bigger problem. So this is a curated program, and we do special dinners and ways that the students can meet each other and then meet also that, that the thought leaders that are coming, but we wanted to make sure that more people were able to go to this conference. And so we created this thing called College Day which is a free pass full conference. Good anything any of the regular track sessions or the keynotes, you can play in the sandbox. Or in fact, that day, we're bringing in US Cyber Games, and they're going to be in the sandbox, so you can go down and play with them. So it's a great opportunity for any student who wants to see what's happening in the space. And I'm very happy to see the numbers right now. We're we're doing we're trending. Well, people were trending well. So
Marco Ciappelli 25:25
Well, I'm glad you said that, because that was actually going to be my question. I'm looking back and how you came up with all these new initiatives as an answer to that infamous gap. Right? We've been talking about for so long right now. And so I want your feedback on you. I mean, you're very positive, you're telling us it's been a very successful program. All of these are very successful program, because you're talking about the younger, upcoming generation, either they're already in the industry, As Sean mentioned, or they are absolutely just interested in see if there is a future there. So are we in the right direction? I mean, you kind of said that. But can you get deeper into that like?
Cecilia Marinier 26:09
So a couple of things. Last year's class for the security scholars was 5050 women to men. And I was like, it was a finely like, and I've been in this industry in 2007, I'm embarrassed to say, but let me tell you like it's that was a big push on the other side, what I'm very proud about and looking at college day. Now, we don't ask questions about people's backgrounds. But just based on the shirts that they're choosing, like whether they're choosing women's shirts, or men's shirts, and we are offering both because I am a firm believer that you have to like give everybody the choice. We're at like 38%, who are choosing women's shirts. And then you know, and we did a couple things to also try to solve that. So we do have two sessions aimed at those college students who might want to come one is a breakfast panel, where we're having three of our sponsors actually talk a little bit more about what it's like to work there. So that gives you an entry level. And it also gives you a chance to meet other students that during a breakfast like networking event. And then after that we're doing a job search, a job, resume review, excuse me. So there'll be people there to talk to you about your resume. So bring your resumes and we will sit down and give you some some tips and tricks on how to improve that, over time. Make it better, so it's more likely to pass that algorithm and get to that land you that interview.
Marco Ciappelli 27:33
That's no good. That's no, this is not what we're talking about. But it is always hanging. Right. Yeah, it is. The session in the end. Yeah.
Sean Martin 27:45
Yeah. Absolutely. So as we're talking about a lot of this stuff, all then we don't have to go down this path at all. I can think of how many posters will be dolly generated, how many pitch decks will be chatting? We'll see. But I'm excited too. I know the ARX XR stuff with Kenan that's gonna be good to US Cyber Games, they're always a great, great team to do engage with. I mean, so many, so many cool things, sandbox innovation, scholarships, college, maybe, as we wrap your sec, I don't know if any final thoughts for folks may know, something they should do straight away. If they're a newbie coming this year.
Cecilia Marinier 28:37
Well, I'm sure that my colleagues told everybody to go to the first timers and loyalty plus session, which I I think it's very hard RSA, I'm gonna say this flat out RSA Conference is huge. There's, you know, 1000s and 1000s of people, if you're coming on your own without a group of a posse from your company, joining some of these little social networking events are very important. So I'm very much a salesperson for that first timer event, I think the birds of a feather anytime you can get into some smaller group sections. That's great. I can tell you that at cyber ops that we are having John strand, and Jason blush art do their backdoor breaches. So if you come and you don't know anybody, that's okay. You can come and play the game with them. And they're very interactive. You know, I know who they're bringing it as, you know, they're putting some plants in the audience to get it. Everybody started and they're awesome people. So come there. And don't worry if you don't drink alcohol, that's fine, because we are also doing craft sodas. I just want to make sure you know it's craft beers and craft soda. So we're trying to make it as open for everybody. So those are the kind of places to go if you want to get started. If you want to hear some highlights of like what you can't miss. I know Linda and Beretta did a great job of all the keynotes. I have to go back to ISB you guys I expect to see all of you who are watching come in and see this because it's going to be a great year. So it's a great, great program.
Marco Ciappelli 30:03
They sure did a good, a good intro, and some really good advice on the first timers coming there, they mentioned what you just said. And also, you know, and I'm going to repeat it because Shawn years been there gazillion time I'm on my 890 or something. So I feel like I'm already know what I'm looking at. But I still know I'm gonna get there, and it's gonna be overwhelming once again. So they were just given this important, I believe, tip of make your pick before you even go there. Like, you know, make your schedule. And then if you're poor, left and right, as you're there, that's really cool. But at least you have a path to follow the things that you really don't want to miss, because you just can't, you can't possibly see everything. Well, I know
Cecilia Marinier 30:50
that you know, Mark of the thing that I'm super happy that they're doing this year is everything will be recorded. So like if you go you're not wasting your time, favoriting sessions, you can favorite everything you want. And then afterwards, you can go back and watch anything you want. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think that part is super cool. But I agree with you, like, make gameplan come out ahead of time. You know, check out on Twitter, like put yourself out there on Twitter, be careful, because actually, you'll probably get a lot of people like, hey, we joined to come on, you know, like, people want to meet you. So I'll stop. But it is a great place. And there is enough spaces where you can find a little bit of a connecting point. So like you said in the sandbox, Shawn, you mentioned this earlier, you know, there's volunteers at each of the different seven sandboxes that are in space plus the pop up villages. That that place, you can definitely have a conversation. So if you haven't talked to people, and you want to just connect, great connecting point. So in addition to the birds of a feather, and in addition to that, the social events.
Sean Martin 31:55
And there, there are plenty of those and or you could be crazy like me and just wing it. So you see and say what you say now but it also is there is a reserve a seat for those sessions, a lot of them do, do fill up quickly. So it's important to grab a seat if if you want to be in person and have have some interaction with the audience and perhaps the presenter, even if they do any polls or things like that. Lots of good stuff to say I mean, I was excited to have this conversation. I know we normally would do it all in one I kind of liked the we we had this broken out as a separate, separate chat. So we can spend a little more time on these programs. And great to see them continuing to grow. And I hope everybody hits at least some if not all of the things you mentioned today, I'm gonna go back to college so I can get a scholarship and
Cecilia Marinier 32:55
come for free for free on Thursday.
Sean Martin 32:59
Now, but in all seriousness that lots going on there, and of course mark on I will do our best to continue to bring stories for RSA Conference. before, during and after. So more from the sandbox, more from the keynotes more from presenters and panelists and, and other companies that are innovating in this space as well. So we appreciate you and all that you do. And looking forward to seeing everybody there.
Cecilia Marinier 33:27
We I think you right back guys, you guys are very much advocates and you for the industry writ large. And you've been doing an amazing job bringing good stories of the industry to people. So thank you guys for always going out there and overturning the next really interesting piece about what's happening.
Marco Ciappelli 33:44
Thank you. For all of those that wants to check the other stories as after the you hear this one. Go to our RSA Conference 2023 coverage page that is every conversation we had videos, podcasts, and also what we're going to be doing there. We're going to be with some of our hosts on broadcast dolly and record right there. So lots lots of things to do. Stay tuned, subscribe, share, and we'll see you up in San Francisco.
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